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| | I have reverted your edit to this entry. Wiktionary policy is that we try not to duplicate information for form-of entries; it simply becomes too much work to keep all the information coordinated, up-to-date, and so on. The etymology you entered on [[δρακεῖν]] already existed on [[δέρκομαι]], and belongs there (and only there). That being said, aside from the misplacement, it was a good etymology, I do appreciate your effort in entering it, and I sincerely hope you'll continue to work on Ancient Greek on Wiktionary. If you have any questions, please feel quite free to ask. Cheers. -[[User:Atelaes|Atelaes]] <small>[[User talk:Atelaes|λάλει ἐμοί]]</small> 22:39, 29 April 2013 (UTC) | | I have reverted your edit to this entry. Wiktionary policy is that we try not to duplicate information for form-of entries; it simply becomes too much work to keep all the information coordinated, up-to-date, and so on. The etymology you entered on [[δρακεῖν]] already existed on [[δέρκομαι]], and belongs there (and only there). That being said, aside from the misplacement, it was a good etymology, I do appreciate your effort in entering it, and I sincerely hope you'll continue to work on Ancient Greek on Wiktionary. If you have any questions, please feel quite free to ask. Cheers. -[[User:Atelaes|Atelaes]] <small>[[User talk:Atelaes|λάλει ἐμοί]]</small> 22:39, 29 April 2013 (UTC) |
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| | + | Could I ask what your source is for this? I'm not finding any evidence of the name [[κρυσ]] anywhere. -[[User:Atelaes|Atelaes]] <small>[[User talk:Atelaes|λάλει ἐμοί]]</small> 23:21, 2 May 2013 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 23:21, 2 May 2013
Your etymology seems to be for the term Silhouette. You may also have noticed that our etymology sections have a distinct format and do not contain simple, unformatted text. SemperBlotto (talk) 14:07, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
By "Greek" do you mean Modern Greek ({{etyl|el}}), or Ancient Greek ({{etyl|grc}})? —RuakhTALK 03:02, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ancient Greek, should I re-add it under that tag? Djkcel (talk) 12:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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- I realized afterward, when I set about transliterating it, that it had a bunch of English letters in the middle of it; so, I removed it. But if you can add the correct Ancient Greek, then yes, please do so. :-) —RuakhTALK 13:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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- Sorry! My source says "arginoeis" and I wasn't sure how to write that in the original Greek. Is there a resource to convert that to the correct letters? Djkcel (talk) 15:39, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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- Nope. If your source is an anglophone source, then we at least know there should be a smooth breathing mark on the initial alpha (since if it had a rough breathing mark, an anglophone source would write "ha-"), but even then, it's not obvious whether the first "i" should be an iota or an eta, whether/where there should be a tonos, etc. (I mean, it's not obvious to me. Someone who actually knows something about Ancient Greek might be able to figure it out.) —RuakhTALK 16:21, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- The actual spelling is ἀργινόεις. The only ambiguities in "arginoeis" are the o and the e, which could be short (omicron and epsilon) or long (omega and eta). There are 3 accents (though 2 are in complementary distribution with each other), and the position of the accent is phonemic. In other words, your examples only make sense in Modern, but not Ancient Greek. Your warning about the dangers of guessing was exactly right, though: the reverted edit had 3 Greek letters, and 2 were wrong. I created an entry for ἀργινόεις (a very tricky nt-stem- I hope I got it right), and added back that part of the etymology. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
A belated welcome [edit]
With all these discussions of minor points, I'm surprised no one gave you our standard welcome template, which has the resources so you can learn how to not make the kinds of mistakes you've been making:
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Again, welcome! Chuck Entz (talk) 05:52, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
etymology [edit]
Hello Djkcel! May I draw your attention to some templates that may be useful when adding etymologies?
- term for attested words (ancestors and cognates)
- recons for reconstructed words
- etyl for the name of the language where a word comes from
- rfscript for signalling a word in the wrong script
Example (in a Spanish lemma): From {{etyl|la|es}} {{term|foobar|lang=la}}, from {{etyl|ine-pro|es}} {{recons|foobar|lang=ine-pro}}
This should give: From Latin foobar, from Proto-Indo-European *foobar
If you encounter words in a wrong script, you could add {{rfscript}} to the lemma. In saxum, there was a word in Old Church Slavonic, but written in Latin characters. Here most words are in their native script: thus Old Church Slavonic in (Old) Cyrillic script. In such a case, you can add {{rfscript|Cyrs}} to the lemma, so others may find and fix the problem.
Have a look at the documentation of these templates or ask me or other users.
Greetings, --MaEr (talk) 14:36, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Is the Gaulish form actually attested? if not, it should have an * in front of it. The best way to do that is using the {{recons}} template, which is just like {{term}}, except for reconstructed forms (even for unattested forms in otherwise attested languages). Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 15:16, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I have reverted your edit to this entry. Wiktionary policy is that we try not to duplicate information for form-of entries; it simply becomes too much work to keep all the information coordinated, up-to-date, and so on. The etymology you entered on δρακεῖν already existed on δέρκομαι, and belongs there (and only there). That being said, aside from the misplacement, it was a good etymology, I do appreciate your effort in entering it, and I sincerely hope you'll continue to work on Ancient Greek on Wiktionary. If you have any questions, please feel quite free to ask. Cheers. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 22:39, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Could I ask what your source is for this? I'm not finding any evidence of the name κρυσ anywhere. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 23:21, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
