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User talk:Ruakh/Tbot.js
Dec 27th 2012, 02:55

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← Older revision Revision as of 02:55, 27 December 2012
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::::::::: Re: "Actually, that was the only case I was thinking of": Well, but you had no way of knowing what cases would be affected, and no way of knowing what cases I would test. What if the problem had only appeared, say, on pages whose titles contained <tt>_</tt>? You should always give steps to reproduce. (Since this is a script that I'm actively working on, and since the problem showed up in the first case I tested, the only cost of not giving steps-to-reproduce is that it made a little bit more work for me: I wasn't aware of any pages with Yiddish-adjective-redlink-translations, so I had to create my own test case. Not a big deal. But in general, when asking a developer about a possible bug, the cost of not giving steps-to-reproduce is very likely to be that your request will be ignored or de-prioritized. So I'm making a specific request, but also giving you general advice.) —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 02:46, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::::: Re: "Actually, that was the only case I was thinking of": Well, but you had no way of knowing what cases would be affected, and no way of knowing what cases I would test. What if the problem had only appeared, say, on pages whose titles contained <tt>_</tt>? You should always give steps to reproduce. (Since this is a script that I'm actively working on, and since the problem showed up in the first case I tested, the only cost of not giving steps-to-reproduce is that it made a little bit more work for me: I wasn't aware of any pages with Yiddish-adjective-redlink-translations, so I had to create my own test case. Not a big deal. But in general, when asking a developer about a possible bug, the cost of not giving steps-to-reproduce is very likely to be that your request will be ignored or de-prioritized. So I'm making a specific request, but also giving you general advice.) —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 02:46, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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::::::::: Of course, I'm not going to argue with you when you're right :) (But when I get errors, I fix the page in question (and then it's no longer a redlink), so it's better to have a test case anyway. That said, the best thing to do what have been to supply one myself.) —[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 02:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
   
 
::::::::: New problem. Why doesn't it check for e.g. {{temp|yi-noun}} before assuming {{temp|head|yi|noun}}? —[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 02:44, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::::: New problem. Why doesn't it check for e.g. {{temp|yi-noun}} before assuming {{temp|head|yi|noun}}? —[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 02:44, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
   
 
:::::::::: It's not "assuming" {{temp|head|yi|noun}}, it's ''defaulting to'' {{temp|head|yi|noun}}, since no one has told it that it has any alternative. (I'm not sure what the purpose of "check[ing] for e.g. {{temp|yi-noun}}" would be, since it would have no way of knowing how to use it.) —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 02:50, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::::::: It's not "assuming" {{temp|head|yi|noun}}, it's ''defaulting to'' {{temp|head|yi|noun}}, since no one has told it that it has any alternative. (I'm not sure what the purpose of "check[ing] for e.g. {{temp|yi-noun}}" would be, since it would have no way of knowing how to use it.) —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 02:50, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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::::::::::: It's used just like {{temp|head}} in this case, at least for the JS's purposes. So: why can't it check for the existence of {{temp|xx-partofspeech}} before it deploys {{temp|head|xx|partofspeech}}? —[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 02:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
   
 
== A bunch of very minor points ==
 
== A bunch of very minor points ==

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