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| | :::It is common in the Polynesian languages for k to become a glottal stop, and eventually to fall out altogether, depending on the language. The plurals don't seem right to me, either. [[User:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[User talk:Stephen G. Brown|Talk]])</sup> 05:14, 2 June 2012 (UTC) | | :::It is common in the Polynesian languages for k to become a glottal stop, and eventually to fall out altogether, depending on the language. The plurals don't seem right to me, either. [[User:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[User talk:Stephen G. Brown|Talk]])</sup> 05:14, 2 June 2012 (UTC) |
| | ::::To be honest, I'm still having trouble verifying my guesses, and I can't find any scholarly work on the subject that I can access. I would be honored if you would edit my subpage to what you think is most reasonable, so I have better assumptions than mine to work off of. Thank you --[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 17:01, 3 June 2012 (UTC) | | ::::To be honest, I'm still having trouble verifying my guesses, and I can't find any scholarly work on the subject that I can access. I would be honored if you would edit my subpage to what you think is most reasonable, so I have better assumptions than mine to work off of. Thank you --[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 17:01, 3 June 2012 (UTC) |
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| | + | :::::There is an interesting source [http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3623452?uid=3739920&uid=2129&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=47699062131877 here] ''(A New View of the Proto-Oceanic Pronominal System)'', but it isn't free. I think they want to charge $14 for access. |
| | + | :::::Just a bit earlier than Proto-Polynesian is Proto-Malayo-Polynesian. In Proto-Malayo-Polynesian, 1st-sg. = *i-aku; 2nd-sg. = *i-kahu; 3rd-sg. = *si-ia; 1st-pl. (inclusive) = *i-(k)ita; 1st-pl. (exclusive) = *i-(k)ami; 2nd-pl. = *i-kamu; 3rd-pl. = *si-ida. (This is just a partial list for comparison.) |
| | + | :::::While *i-aku is very close to Samoan [[a'u]], and even though other bits look familiar as well, nevertheless there is a considerable difference between Proto-Malayo-Polynesian pronouns and those of the Modern Polynesian languages. I think it is problematic to think of a single Proto-Polynesian language, and I think there were already dialects as I said before. It may be necessary to narrow it down to Proto-Eastern Oceanic in order to arrive at a good table. Anything that we posit as a Proto-Polynesian form is just going to be guesswork, and I think it will be necessary to look at some sources such as the one above at www.jstor.org. [[User:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[User talk:Stephen G. Brown|Talk]])</sup> 05:00, 4 June 2012 (UTC) |
