| User talk:Tooironic Aug 27th 2012, 02:49 Starting with Chinese: | ← Older revision | Revision as of 02:49, 27 August 2012 | | Line 1,382: | Line 1,382: | | | : Hate to burst your bubble, but Chinese is not like Japanese and has very little in the way of what you described. Most Chinese texts require at least an intermediate level before they can be read with any kind of ease. That includes material aimed to children. I recommend you enrol in a course to improve your Chinese before you move on to that kind of stuff. Or you can try purchasing a decent text book and getting a tutor to help you. Sorry for the belated reply. [[User:Tooironic|---> Tooironic]] ([[User talk:Tooironic|talk]]) 02:19, 27 August 2012 (UTC) | | : Hate to burst your bubble, but Chinese is not like Japanese and has very little in the way of what you described. Most Chinese texts require at least an intermediate level before they can be read with any kind of ease. That includes material aimed to children. I recommend you enrol in a course to improve your Chinese before you move on to that kind of stuff. Or you can try purchasing a decent text book and getting a tutor to help you. Sorry for the belated reply. [[User:Tooironic|---> Tooironic]] ([[User talk:Tooironic|talk]]) 02:19, 27 August 2012 (UTC) | | | :: Wow, I thought every major language had [[w:Dick and Jane]] or its equivalent. The problem is that I'm only currently aiming for an understanding around cmn-1 or cmn-2, not real literacy. I do have access to Chinese textbooks, so I ''might'' be able to borrow one for a while (they're called ''Integrated Chinese'' - do you know that series?). Thanks anyway --[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 02:28, 27 August 2012 (UTC) | | :: Wow, I thought every major language had [[w:Dick and Jane]] or its equivalent. The problem is that I'm only currently aiming for an understanding around cmn-1 or cmn-2, not real literacy. I do have access to Chinese textbooks, so I ''might'' be able to borrow one for a while (they're called ''Integrated Chinese'' - do you know that series?). Thanks anyway --[[User:Metaknowledge|Μετάknowledge]]<small><sup>''[[User talk:Metaknowledge|discuss]]/[[Special:Contributions/Metaknowledge|deeds]]''</sup></small> 02:28, 27 August 2012 (UTC) | | | + | | | | ::: Indeed, many major languages do not. Cultures which have been historically resistant to foreigners have a dearth of interactive and engaging material for learners. This is the case for Chinese, and may well be the case for similar languages like Hindi and Russian. Luckily though with the advent of the Internet resources have improved dramatically. Have a look on YouTube you may find something interesting there. I'm familiar with Integrated Chinese but have no idea about its quality. I haven't used beginner's textbooks for many years. I remember we used to have an old one back in high school in which everyone used to call each other [[同志]], was quite fun. Chinese is an incredibly challenging language to learn, but it can also be immensely fun and rewarding, not to mention very practical given the sheer number of speakers and rise of China in the modern world. Good luck! [[User:Tooironic|---> Tooironic]] ([[User talk:Tooironic|talk]]) 02:37, 27 August 2012 (UTC) | | ::: Indeed, many major languages do not. Cultures which have been historically resistant to foreigners have a dearth of interactive and engaging material for learners. This is the case for Chinese, and may well be the case for similar languages like Hindi and Russian. Luckily though with the advent of the Internet resources have improved dramatically. Have a look on YouTube you may find something interesting there. I'm familiar with Integrated Chinese but have no idea about its quality. I haven't used beginner's textbooks for many years. I remember we used to have an old one back in high school in which everyone used to call each other [[同志]], was quite fun. Chinese is an incredibly challenging language to learn, but it can also be immensely fun and rewarding, not to mention very practical given the sheer number of speakers and rise of China in the modern world. Good luck! [[User:Tooironic|---> Tooironic]] ([[User talk:Tooironic|talk]]) 02:37, 27 August 2012 (UTC) | | | + | | | | + | :::I possess ''Integrated Chinese'' but ''New Practical Chinese Reader'' (very similar in approach, structure, etc.) is much better. This was voted on www.chinese-forums.com. The latter is used in Universities more often. I have stopped enjoying it (that much) after volume 4 but at this level you can use any other textbook. --[[User:Atitarev|Anatoli]] <sup>([[User talk:Atitarev|обсудить]]</sup>/<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Atitarev|вклад]])</sup> 02:49, 27 August 2012 (UTC) | | | | | | | | ::Self-study is possible, of course. Graded Chinese readers is a good start after finishing some decent textbooks. "New Practical Chinese Reader" - (3 volumes, at least, with audio). From Graded readers, I recommend "Chinese Breeze" and "Graded Chinese Readers". They come with pinyin and audio making it easier for complete beginners. You need to have some vocabulary and grammar. 100 characters is too few. You need about 800-1000 to start reading Graded Readers. --[[User:Atitarev|Anatoli]] <sup>([[User talk:Atitarev|обсудить]]</sup>/<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Atitarev|вклад]])</sup> 02:34, 27 August 2012 (UTC) | | ::Self-study is possible, of course. Graded Chinese readers is a good start after finishing some decent textbooks. "New Practical Chinese Reader" - (3 volumes, at least, with audio). From Graded readers, I recommend "Chinese Breeze" and "Graded Chinese Readers". They come with pinyin and audio making it easier for complete beginners. You need to have some vocabulary and grammar. 100 characters is too few. You need about 800-1000 to start reading Graded Readers. --[[User:Atitarev|Anatoli]] <sup>([[User talk:Atitarev|обсудить]]</sup>/<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Atitarev|вклад]])</sup> 02:34, 27 August 2012 (UTC) | | |
