| Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/Others Apr 4th 2012, 19:19 Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2012-03/Minor ELE fix: kept, closed | ← Older revision | Revision as of 19:19, 4 April 2012 | | Line 1,552: | Line 1,552: | | | This seems like a misnomer. In general a trademark is not essentially part of a language. It is something that has a legal status in one or more jurisdictions, often spanning multiple languages. For example [[REALTOR]]/[[Realtor]]/[[realtor]] is shown as an English term. If it is indeed a trademark at all, as it seems to be in the US, it is one in any language in which it appears in the US, eg, Spanish, Navajo, French. Since we have no practical ability to delimit and display the national or linguistic scope of the trademark status members, I suggest we simply include all trademarks in a single category or have no category whatsoever. I'm not sure whether we should even try to get at this as a context/usage label. Alternatively, perhaps we could recruit some intellectual property attorneys as contributors. [[User: DCDuring |DCDuring]] <small >[[User talk: DCDuring|TALK]]</small > 00:05, 11 March 2012 (UTC) | | This seems like a misnomer. In general a trademark is not essentially part of a language. It is something that has a legal status in one or more jurisdictions, often spanning multiple languages. For example [[REALTOR]]/[[Realtor]]/[[realtor]] is shown as an English term. If it is indeed a trademark at all, as it seems to be in the US, it is one in any language in which it appears in the US, eg, Spanish, Navajo, French. Since we have no practical ability to delimit and display the national or linguistic scope of the trademark status members, I suggest we simply include all trademarks in a single category or have no category whatsoever. I'm not sure whether we should even try to get at this as a context/usage label. Alternatively, perhaps we could recruit some intellectual property attorneys as contributors. [[User: DCDuring |DCDuring]] <small >[[User talk: DCDuring|TALK]]</small > 00:05, 11 March 2012 (UTC) | | | | | | | − | == [[:Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2012-03/Minor ELE fix]] == | + | == <s>[[:Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2012-03/Minor ELE fix]]</s> == | | | | | | | | I think we need to back away from the idea that every small uncontroversial improvement to a policy page requires a vote. I don't think that idea was ever approved by a vote, and it's detrimental in that (1) it makes it harder to follow the votes that actually matter, (2) it deters numerous small improvements that can greatly improve a page over time, (3) it promotes dissonance between policy pages and actual enforced policy (since, despite our best and worst intentions, the policy we enforce evolves faster than the policy we document), (4) it shows the rest of WMF that we are really incapable of functioning as a [[wiki]]. —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 21:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC) | | I think we need to back away from the idea that every small uncontroversial improvement to a policy page requires a vote. I don't think that idea was ever approved by a vote, and it's detrimental in that (1) it makes it harder to follow the votes that actually matter, (2) it deters numerous small improvements that can greatly improve a page over time, (3) it promotes dissonance between policy pages and actual enforced policy (since, despite our best and worst intentions, the policy we enforce evolves faster than the policy we document), (4) it shows the rest of WMF that we are really incapable of functioning as a [[wiki]]. —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 21:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC) | | Line 1,581: | Line 1,581: | | | | | | | | :In the time since I proposed my own vote on minor policy changes, I've come to share the opinion of Ruakh and Davilla that votes on minor changes are tedious, overly bureaucratic and unnecessary. Still, I fundamentally oppose RFD-"votes" on the deletion of active policy votes... that just seems like taking a shovel and digging deeper into the rabbit hole. I think starting a new {{temp|policy}} vote is a good idea. [[User:-sche|- -sche]] [[User talk:-sche|(discuss)]] 00:11, 23 March 2012 (UTC) | | :In the time since I proposed my own vote on minor policy changes, I've come to share the opinion of Ruakh and Davilla that votes on minor changes are tedious, overly bureaucratic and unnecessary. Still, I fundamentally oppose RFD-"votes" on the deletion of active policy votes... that just seems like taking a shovel and digging deeper into the rabbit hole. I think starting a new {{temp|policy}} vote is a good idea. [[User:-sche|- -sche]] [[User talk:-sche|(discuss)]] 00:11, 23 March 2012 (UTC) | | | + | | | | + | '''Kept, vote took place and passed.''' Just noting it here for the archive. -- [[User:Gauss|Gauss]] ([[User talk:Gauss|talk]]) 19:19, 4 April 2012 (UTC) | | | | | | | | == [[Template:pt-propernoun-m]] == | | == [[Template:pt-propernoun-m]] == | | |
