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Wiktionary talk:About Hebrew
Apr 26th 2012, 00:16

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:::And re "abbreviations that are read out as a series of letters (though offhand I can't think of any examples like that)", examples are numbers — which I've seen written with final and with medial ''mem''s.<span class="Unicode">&#x200b;—[[User:Msh210|msh210]]℠</span> ([[user talk:Msh210|talk]]) 21:31, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 
:::And re "abbreviations that are read out as a series of letters (though offhand I can't think of any examples like that)", examples are numbers — which I've seen written with final and with medial ''mem''s.<span class="Unicode">&#x200b;—[[User:Msh210|msh210]]℠</span> ([[user talk:Msh210|talk]]) 21:31, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 
:::: The pronunciation of numbers can go either way; consider {{term|ט״ו בשבט|lang=he|tr=T.V. biSh'vát}}, pronounced /tu/, and {{term||[[w:he:מצודת כ"ח|מצודת כ״ח]]|lang=he|tr=m'tsudát K.Kh.}}, pronounced {{IPAchar|[[כוח#Hebrew|/ˈko.aχ/]]}}. (Confoundingly, I think the tendency to pronounce numbers as words is a bit old-fashioned, and conversely I think the use of ''mém'' at the end of a word is relatively new — what I described above is my impression of current usage, not historical usage.) —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 22:00, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 
:::: The pronunciation of numbers can go either way; consider {{term|ט״ו בשבט|lang=he|tr=T.V. biSh'vát}}, pronounced /tu/, and {{term||[[w:he:מצודת כ"ח|מצודת כ״ח]]|lang=he|tr=m'tsudát K.Kh.}}, pronounced {{IPAchar|[[כוח#Hebrew|/ˈko.aχ/]]}}. (Confoundingly, I think the tendency to pronounce numbers as words is a bit old-fashioned, and conversely I think the use of ''mém'' at the end of a word is relatively new — what I described above is my impression of current usage, not historical usage.) —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 22:00, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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:::::And sometimes they're pronounced as if spelled out as words (e.g., with numbers less than eleven, {{Hebr|ב׳}} pronounced as {{Hebr|שְׁנֵי}}). But I was thinking of years, actually, which (in my experience, at least) are usually pronounced as a series of letters.<span class="Unicode">&#x200b;—[[User:Msh210|msh210]]℠</span> ([[user talk:Msh210|talk]]) 00:16, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

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