| | : Other wordbooks such as Century, Webster, and even the OED don't make this sunderness. Rather they might mark a word as obsolete, archaic, or historical. Putting it all under English with {{context|Middle English}} or {{context|Old English}} might be better. I think as time goes by and more old books are digitized, we'll find many of these words in early ModE if not later. Truthfully, one does find them in modern books albeit it is usually in books or writs talking about ME, the history of the tung, or some other historical work. Mensk(e) made it past yur 1470 cutoff, but I think the spelling was menske rather than mensk which is likely why I put in the earlier quotes.</rant> --[[User:AnWulf|AnWulf ... Ferþu Hal!]] ([[User talk:AnWulf|talk]]) 16:33, 28 March 2012 (UTC) | | : Other wordbooks such as Century, Webster, and even the OED don't make this sunderness. Rather they might mark a word as obsolete, archaic, or historical. Putting it all under English with {{context|Middle English}} or {{context|Old English}} might be better. I think as time goes by and more old books are digitized, we'll find many of these words in early ModE if not later. Truthfully, one does find them in modern books albeit it is usually in books or writs talking about ME, the history of the tung, or some other historical work. Mensk(e) made it past yur 1470 cutoff, but I think the spelling was menske rather than mensk which is likely why I put in the earlier quotes.</rant> --[[User:AnWulf|AnWulf ... Ferþu Hal!]] ([[User talk:AnWulf|talk]]) 16:33, 28 March 2012 (UTC) |
| − | :: AnWulf, would you use Latin quotations in an Italian entry? The chief purpose of citations is to substantiate proof of use in the language to which it belongs. Century dictionary (and I love CD, and refer to it incessantly) carries Middle English terms for reasons you mention above. Here at Wiktionary, we do not necessarily rely on whether a term occurs in a modern English dictionary as proof that it is a Modern English word. Now, if a Middle English quote is ''translated'' in a post-Middle English work into Modern English that's a different story. Otherwise, if a ME term was carried into the Early Modern English period and no EME cite can be found, it is best not to add a citation than to try to supply it with a Middle English one IMHO. Please see the discussion at [[Talk:tocome|tocome]]. [[User:Leasnam|Leasnam]] ([[User talk:Leasnam|talk]]) 03:45, 3 April 2012 (UTC) | + | :: AnWulf, would you use Latin quotations in an Italian entry? The chief purpose of citations is to substantiate proof of use in the language to which it belongs. Century dictionary (and I love CD, and refer to it incessantly) carries Middle English terms for reasons you mention above. Here at Wiktionary, we do not necessarily rely on whether a term occurs in a modern English dictionary as proof that it is a Modern English word. Now, if a Middle English quote is ''translated'' in a post-Middle English work into Modern English that's a different story. Otherwise, if a ME term was carried into the Early Modern English period and no EME cite can be found, it is best not to add a citation than to try to supply it with a Middle English one, IMHO (--which actually might have the opposite effect and increase the likelihood of turning the entry into a Middle English one). Please see the discussion at [[Talk:tocome|tocome]]. [[User:Leasnam|Leasnam]] ([[User talk:Leasnam|talk]]) 03:45, 3 April 2012 (UTC) |
