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**p.p.s. Note: my software throws away special characters (converts them to spaces) - so chapter 2 does not contain "Carpet-Bag", only "Carpet" and "Bag". [[User:SemperBlotto|SemperBlotto]] ([[User talk:SemperBlotto|talk]]) 07:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

  

**p.p.s. Note: my software throws away special characters (converts them to spaces) - so chapter 2 does not contain "Carpet-Bag", only "Carpet" and "Bag". [[User:SemperBlotto|SemperBlotto]] ([[User talk:SemperBlotto|talk]]) 07:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 

*** So you might want to manually convert "wouldn" and "t" to "wouldn't" etc. [[User:SemperBlotto|SemperBlotto]] ([[User talk:SemperBlotto|talk]]) 07:49, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

  

*** So you might want to manually convert "wouldn" and "t" to "wouldn't" etc. [[User:SemperBlotto|SemperBlotto]] ([[User talk:SemperBlotto|talk]]) 07:49, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
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:Yes, I had expected that the software would butcher some words bearing internal punctuation, but that's probably unavoidable. Thanks for this. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|talk]]) 18:29, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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2nd note re: 2nd delete.....The entry of mine you keep deleting is on a disambiguation page, which implies that extraneous relevant material is allowed. Wit: 'disambiguation'...to remove the ambiguity from; make unambiguous. Please stop wasting volunteer time and energy on petty matters which result in loss of useful information! Additionally, this your talk page, not mine, so the message below (*) would sit here without my knowledge. It doesn't constitute proper notification.Blurbzone 10:54, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Attn: SemperBlotto: Found you'd deleted a contribution I'd made on 12/19/2011 for the SOS-wiktionary page. Courtesy has it that you should contact the contributor first, before removing work that's not yours. The contribution is valid, and it's back as of 1/3/2012.Blurbzone 08:50, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

"Courtesy has it that you should contact the contributor first, before removing work that's not yours". What rubbish, if you did that you spend more time writing on talk pages than you did editing entries. I dunno about Wikipedia, but here we concentrate on the entries first, and the editors second. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:39, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Your impact

If you pick a species at random and look up its specific epithet on Wiktionary you now have at least a 34% chance of it having an entry (probably a bit more; it's a rough calculation). Back in September you'd only have a 23% chance. Cheers! Pengo 15:31, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

  • But from now on, each successive entry will have less and less impact. They are also getting more difficult to define (on average) as we finish with the simple prefix-suffix forms and the surname entries. SemperBlotto 15:35, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
True, but each new entry still covers around 100 species. I've been looking at making a new list weighted by the hit counts of species on Wikipedia, so as to target epithets (and genera) of better known species. Though so far it seems like quite a task to put the data together. Pengo 23:35, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Informatic

You recently removed the noun for informatic. Why?

The term is generic here. Other versions are comparative, such as bioinformatic, or geoinformatic, so the case is nominative.Wikimedian 11:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

  • You added a noun section between the adjective section and its translations. If the noun actually exists then add it after all the parts of the adjective. SemperBlotto 12:00, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Is this really a suffix, or just the pronoun si tacked on the the end of a verb? Mglovesfun (talk) 00:19, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Our definition :- "One or more letters or sounds added at the end of a word to modify the word's meaning". It's definitely one or more letters added at the end of a word. It definitely modifies the word's meaning. Looks like a suffix to me. SemperBlotto 08:42, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Hi, Semperblotto. I'd rather call it an enclitic. Otherwise, we would have to classify the English possessive 's also as a suffix... --Actarus (Prince d'Euphor) 11:06, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] A question

Hi SemperBlotto
can your Bot create Kurdish verb forms?George Animal 15:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
  • It probably could. But I'm not going to. I have far too much other work to do, and I wouldn't know how to check the entries. SemperBlotto 16:09, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

You might want to revisit your action on this address with particular attention to information available at w:Tim Tebow#Tebowing. __meco 11:31, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

"da" is a real word in Ido: [1] --72.24.203.245 18:08, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

  • I didn't say it was vandalism. But there was no headword, and no categorisation. See other Ido prepositions for how to make a properly formatted entry. SemperBlotto 19:33, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Deleting an entry that doesn't conform to the standard layout but which does contain a correct definition is counterproductive and a bit lazy too. The entry could have easily been fixed from what I can see. —CodeCat 19:39, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I agree with CodeCat. You could even put {{rfc-auto}}; KassadBot can add both {{head}} and horizontal lines. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:47, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Feel free to fix it. I haven't got the time. Reversion is a single click. SemperBlotto 19:48, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
In a case like that, if the content is correct, better IMO to leave it as is (badly formatted) than to revert. AF will add a headword line and tag it for human attention.​—msh210℠ (talk) 20:54, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Please explain

[2]? -Porch corpter (talk/contribs) 09:21, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Because it was wrong. No heroism involved in your definition. SemperBlotto 11:39, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I've heard before that a hero does good deeds. -Porch corpter (talk/contribs) 11:56, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, but doing good deeds doesn't make you a hero - there has to be bravery involved. We do good deeds by adding words to Wiktionary - but that doesn't make us heroes. SemperBlotto 12:05, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Isn't buprenorphine the normal spelling? Lmaltier 07:35, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Polite meaning of lei

Why did you revert my edits? As far as I can tell, lei is perfectly correct except in formal contexts:

  • Wikipedia says Lei may be capitalized and also writes lei uncapitalized in some places.
  • WordReference mentions lei in the polite sense without using capitals

--Costa Discordia 13:35, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

  • I have only ever seen it as capitalized (and you can't trust Wikipedia). SemperBlotto 13:37, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
    • p.s. But see the two entries on it.wiktionary.
Obviously some people in this thread have seen it (and use it) uncapitalized too. See this transcript of a phone call with the Concordia captain that uses lei uncapitalized. I don't know what could be the best way to indicate that it is less formal (and perhaps rarer?), but it definitely deserves some mention. Since I don't speak Italian and had to look up lei in Wiktionary, I was misled into thinking the captain was being called a girl. I don't want other people to be misled too if they use Wiktionary instead of another dictionary. --Costa Discordia 13:50, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
And about it.wiktionary: I would put much less trust in the exhaustivity of wiktionary (especially non-en) than in the correctness of wikipedia :-) --Costa Discordia 13:50, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
  • My Zingarelli (Italian only) dictionary gives the formal sense as either capitalised or not, but my grammar books give it as capitalized only. I have expanded our definition accordingly. SemperBlotto 14:05, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] reverting the goose entry

hey, i saw you reverted my changes. i am new here, so please cut me some slack. i found about 30 different phrases and idioms involving goose. what to do with them?

  • Hi there. There were just so many errors in formatting etc. that it was far easier to revert than spend lots of valuable time fixing it. SemperBlotto 14:36, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Everything seems ok here apart from the interjection, that looks to be three different titles, especially the third one which uses cazzi not cazzo. Also 'bad sentence' is (to me) clearly the wrong tone for a formal dictionary. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:01, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Yes, when I've got some time I shall have a cleanup. SemperBlotto 17:03, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, it appears that last year you deleted the page P.G.'. I was trying to include the abbreviation for (Italian) Prigione di Guerra (prison of war), which can be found, e.g., in Wikipedia. Cheers, Bjenks 04:09, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

You should be able to create that. The deleted entry was an English abbreviation for "professional geologist", which was not supportable as an entry. --EncycloPetey 05:36, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
This isn't in any of my Italian dictionaries, and is not in the Italian Wikipedia or Wiktionary. PG or P.G. means procuratore generale or procura generale in Italian. PG also used to mean Perugia on Italian number plates before they scrapped that system. SemperBlotto 08:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

I really don't get this revert - why are those two senses distinct? We don't have the same distinction for any other Greek letters apart from mu (which I have merged as well), and we don't generally have it for Latin letters either, although there are odd cases (e.g. u). 81.142.107.230 13:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Yes, you are correct. I've cleaned it up. SemperBlotto 16:23, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your vandalism help

Thank you for your vandalism help over at the page santorum. Much appreciated! ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 16:43, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] More linguistic vandalism: Stein's inaccrochable

Jeff, Thanks very much for reverting the entry on accrocher. You are right that Gertrude Stein was committing linguistic vandalism in coining the word inaccrochable in English to describe a story by Ernest Hemingway. However, they were in Paris at the time, so it is clearly a word derived from the French. Moreover, the story has taken on a life of its own, especially among Heminway buffs and no doubt among Stein buffs, so it cannot be said any longer that there is no such word. But part of the discussion in such circles is the meaning of Stein's word, with few thinking to trace it to the French accrocher. Looking around in Wiktionary, inaccrochable did not seem otherwise recorded. The entry on accrocher would seem as good a place as any.

So, subject of course always to your editorial supervision and guidance, do you think it might be possible to make some record of Stein's innaccrochable on the accrocher page? I can understand your own personal distaste for and repulsion at Gertrude Stein's linguistic vandalism. But recording this distinctively Frnch derivation is rather an appreciation of language.

My only interest is that I was asked the meaning of inaccrochable by a Korean correspondent and thought an entry here would help other enquirers. Maybe you have a better solution.

  • It's easy really. Does the word exist? Can you find three independent usages of it? If yes, then add the word (providing a definition). If not, don't. SemperBlotto 08:18, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Jeff,

I really like your brisk dispatch of qestions it is so refreshingly to the point. Clearly, inaccrochable is a word Gertrude Stein made up for the occasion. So, there are never going to be uses of the word that are truly independent of her, unless you allow someone else might hit on it independently. Because it is made up, there is also always going to be an issue as to whether it is a real word and, if so, what it means. In fact, as you might expect, much of the discussion turns on exactly such issues: <http://www.fictionaut.com/groups/matchbook/threads/307>. However, anyone reading Hemingway's celebrated memoir of his time in Paris, A Moveable Feast, is going to come across the word and may wonder about it, as my Korean correspondent did.

But you are the expert in this matters. An effort was made to be helpful to enquirers, with reference to Gertrude Stein. I am sure that if you want to help, it is really easy. But I can see that you may feel it more important to oppose linguistic vandalism by not giving such help.

  • I have added the word, and three citations that do not mention Stein or Hemingway. You could have done the same yourself, instead of writing essays. Feel free to add more citations from the original people. SemperBlotto 12:44, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the help at whirlpooling

Thanks very much for the help at whirlpooling, you're right about the subject, and it makes it a lot clearer. -- Cirt (talk) 18:43, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] word list reversion

So why did you remove my addition of the word "laboratory" to the "-atory" suffix derived-terms list? If you include "lavatory", which comes from the Latin word "to wash", then a laboratory is a kindred word derived from the Latin word "to work". If done by bot, then your bot is seriously flawed. I must say, I've done editing on Wikipedia for the last 8 years, and this is the first time one of my corrections was reverted for no apparent reason. The British pronounce the word lah-BOR-uh-tory, same as the word lavatory, so you hear the actual similar Latin roots. Any explanation would be appreciated, thanks. 75.62.128.148 19:51, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

  • The entry that we have for -atory specifies adjectives (though it didn't explicitly say so). laboratory is a noun. I have also removed lavatory as this is also a noun. There may be others. We probably need a second definition to cope with such words. I'll have a think. SemperBlotto 19:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Additionally, besides lavatory the words conservatory, crematory, observatory, and purgatory are all included on the list, all of them places associated with their prefixes.
  • And, by the way, you're wrong. Laboratory is also an adjective, as in laboratory equipment. That's what makes English nouns so special.
  • The other place words can be adjectives too. —This unsigned comment was added by 75.62.128.148 (talk • contribs).
  • I have updated -atory. In terms such as "laboratory equipment", the word "laboratory" is still a noun - this is called attributive use of a noun. SemperBlotto 19:56, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Damn cool. Thanks. 75.62.128.148 20:01, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Just found this little used Italian template. It should really be {{it-verb form of}} like {{es-verb form of}}, but in all honesty, isn't {{conjugation of}} as good or frankly quite a lot better? I'm asking you as (I believe) our only current Italian editor, Barmar being on long term wikibreak. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:58, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Yes, it looks like someone's experiment. I have replaced all occurrences of it by "conjugation of". I shall now delete it. SemperBlotto 14:53, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Your vandalism

Hello, I reported you at the Wiktionary feedback page for coming behind me and reverting just because I didn't want violate the 3RR. If you'd like to defend yourself on the page, you're more than welcome but I have no time for silliness. 173.0.254.229 18:38, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello! Semperblotto! I've reported you for abusing the admin tools. Disagreeing with an edit does not mean you get to instate a block and abuse admin tools. I've reported you here [3] 173.0.254.229 10:07, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] A question (Acopia)

Hi. You have recently undone a change to the definition to 'acopia'. The change was an attempt to point out the ambiguity of the word and it's lack of latin route. I would cite the following article which describes the issues very well. How would you suggest these issues can be made know on the page? Many thanks. http://ageing.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/4/490.3.full —This comment was unsigned.

  • The Oxford Journal article shows that the word acopia is used in the way that we define it here. If you think that the word is also used in a different way then all you have to do is provide evidence. (The name of a commercial company, by itself, is not such evidence). By the way, you seem to have destroyed the original contents of the Wikipedia article. SemperBlotto 18:04, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Italian personal pronouns

Hey Jeff, I'm working on a table for the subject forms of Italian personal pronouns and the 3rd person pronouns are causing me some mental stress. From my understanding, lui, lei and loro are the normal everyday forms, but I'm unclear on the usage of esso, essa, essi and esse. Could you clarify at all? — [Ric Laurent] — 18:26, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Well, it has always seemed to me that lui, lei and loro are what Italians actually use, certainly in spoken language. Some time ago somebody argued that we should replace lui/lei in our verb conjugation tables with esso/essa but User:Barmar (native of Tuscany) argued against it. I think that esso etc are more common in written Italian, but I can't be sure. I'll see if I can find the old discussion (Barmar has been absent for ages, and seems to have left the project). SemperBlotto 19:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
    • p.s. egli is definitely only used in formal, written Italian. SemperBlotto 19:56, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
I did notice that our conjugation tables have lui and lei, but essi and esse. I did kinda wonder about that.... Anyway, what we have so far is at {{it-personal pronouns}}. I wasn't sure exactly what to do with egli, so I haven't put it in the table yet. — [Ric Laurent] — 19:58, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the template, Ric. I have added egli and ella as "written" or should it be "bookish"? Added Loro. Web pages on Italian grammar usually include egli and ella, see also: w:Italian_grammar#Pronouns. --Anatoli (обсудить) 23:23, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Our own entry for ella marks it as archaic. — [Ric Laurent] — 17:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
I have changed accordingly :) --Anatoli (обсудить) 01:24, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Corrected definition of Latin participle exactus

Please verify that there is an adjective exactus, a, um, in Latin apart from the participle. I don't know of one with the meaning "exact". Carlemock 17:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

  • I admit that it is not in Lewis & Short - but it is on Logos SemperBlotto 17:31, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Greybar Hotel Deletion

This is not a protologism. It's been in use for decades (if not longer) as a slang term for jail. Do a Google Books search: not only does it show up in dictionaries of American slang, but in both fiction and non-fiction. Chuck Entz 20:15, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

  • OK. Restored and wikified. You might like to add some citations just for the record. SemperBlotto 20:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi sorry about putting D before E, didn't know to prioritize English, will try to remember later. I based existence of Latin section on "Recorded since 1570, from Late Latin trapezium" from the etymology section. I'm not sure TBH just trying to follow the breadcrumbs. If it doesn't exist we'd need to find a new etymological explanation right? Y12J 20:42, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

  • All you need is evidence. See if you can find it in a Latin text (and add a definition / translation). (We should be able to figure out an inflection) SemperBlotto 20:44, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
I think I'll check who added the Etym claim in the history, maybe they'd have one? Also do you know how to get Template:Term to specify Ancient Greek? Currently it says:
"from Ancient Greek τραπέζιον ("irregular quadrilateral", literally "a little table"), diminutive of τράπεζα ("table")""
But τράπεζα is a modern Greek term meaning 'bank'. I added a section for Ancient Greek to it saying 'table' but I am not sure how to direct to that part, since if an AG term was derived from it, it must be the ancient meaning. Y12J 20:51, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I don't know any Greek (but I like the food). All I know is that we specify {{etyl|grc}} for Ancient Greek and {{etyl|he}} for the modern language. SemperBlotto 20:55, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
    See comoedia for a Latin word from Ancient Greek that has all the template niceties in the etymology section. --EncycloPetey 04:20, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Judaeo-Spanish Ladino, not to be confused with Reathian Ladin

See this in wikipedia, [4]. Ladino could be confused with this, Ladin, wikipedia [5], a neo-latin and romance language that has not spanish, greek, turkish, and hebrew influences. Is it impossible try to clarify this in the entry? --Djudezmoot 16:26, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Yes, but why would you want to put it in the language heading of amá? feel free to add a note to the Ladin entry, or maybe its talk page. But remember we are a dictionary - we just define and translate words - so nothing too encyclopedic. SemperBlotto 16:29, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
    It would make no sense to do this for individual entries with Ladino sections, only by editing the template {{lad}}, which should be done by discussing it at WT:BP because of the widespread use and sensitivity of {{lad}}. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:30, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Would you take another look, there is more to prison guard than someone who guards a prison, in fact, there are prison guards that don't work in prisons at all, and in fact their main purpose is not to guard the prison but to guard prisoners from escaping or running amok. Also for the oneword version of the term, I have found three non-scanno uses of the one word form, you can see an actual scan showing the printed original as one word on one line. So I think this counts as a set term, I'd love it if you gave it another looking over.Lucifer 17:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] bodyworker

(bodyworker)Lucifer 20:12, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Continual misuse of tools

This revert is yet another example of your continual misuse of the rollback and page deletion tools. Since you continue to misuse them, and in addition refuse to assume good faith towards me, I have reported you to the beer parlor Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 01:24, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Machine = aeroplane

I object to your deletion of the definition of "machine" as "aeroplane". This is a well-attested and specific usage in Britain, especially during the World Wars. --Jtle515 (talk) 08:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

But we do have a sense for "computer" (given usex: "pushing the limits of the machine", and it's also common to hear sysadmins etc. asking "does it work on your machine?"). Jtle515, can you provide similar citations for the aeroplane sense? Equinox ◑ 23:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

See 20-Hydroxyecdysone. This is one of those chemical words that never seems to occur without its accompanying number. Is it usefully definable? Equinox ◑ 23:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Google search with added -20 gives loads of hits. I'll have a go (this also applies to the next load of words). SemperBlotto (talk) 07:53, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Some more words

Here are some (bio)chemical words I have seen recently and don't understand (and they are not in Wikipedia): ventiloquinone and isoventiloquinone, cyclopentannulated, nanaomycin, pyranonaphthoquinone, thysanone, pentalongin, eleutherin and methoxyeleutherin, karwinaphthol, carbazoquinocin, landomycinone, and benzannulation. What is a good thing to do with these? They will be tactfully ignored in Requested Entries. I could potentially merge them into your sandbox subpages. Or possibly you are in a position to dig them up and work out what they are, whereas I don't generally understand those papers. Equinox ◑ 01:59, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

  • All done. Feel free to add words to my a-z sandboxes (or to remove blue linked entries). SemperBlotto (talk) 12:29, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Do you consider this, and equivalent categories for W and J to be a good idea? w:Scrabble letter distributions#Italian says that "The letters J, K, W, X, and Y are absent since these letters are used only in loanwords." NB asking you directly as you're the only active Italian editor. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:53, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Well, what -pedia says is more or less true. You will find J used in parts of Italy once part of the Greek empire (i.e. the south), where it is used (and pronounced) as an I (there is a chain of "Jolly Hotels" that are quite reasonable). I would have no objection to such categories, as long as you don't want me to populate them (ditto for three-letter words etc). Personally, I think that we have far to many useless categories - do we have any evidence that our users ever use any of them? Cheers. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:49, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Was there some actual reason why you reverted my correction, or did you just mistake me for a vandal or something? Even the Wikipedia entry on the term mentions no suggestion that "mob" has anything to do with crowds -- it's short for "mobile". Keolah (talk) 21:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

  • If you are User:71.215.212.184, then your edit didn't seem make much sense and was grammatically incorrect. SemperBlotto (talk) 22:17, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] accusasse is not a Latin verb form

Hi! Could you tell me where exactly it is said that accusasse is an inflected form of accuso? - 94.101.2.145 06:54, 18 March 2012 (UTC) There are six hits just in Latin Wikisource [6] even one by Ovid. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC) p.s. It is an example of syncopation - we don't bother putting it in the inflection tables.

I didn't get that. I get it now :-) __meco (talk) 14:55, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] uncareful is not a word

I don't understand why my comment on the discussion for the word "uncareful" was deleted? This is not an English word, the correct word is "careless".

It is a word. See it in books here: [7] Equinox ◑ 13:24, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Proper Nouns

I agree. I will move the pages. If you have some knowledge of Latin vowel lengths, then please check this. Also I do not know the gender of all names, thus it would be useful to check it. Thank you for your help.

User:Dyami Millarson 15:00, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I just discovered that I am not authorised to move all the pages, thus the ones that I did not move I would reserve for you to change. Wait some minutes, and then I will be done.

User:Dyami Millarson 15:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

The pages leonida and eunomia can be deleted. I am quite new here on wiktionary, so how can I delete a page?

User:Dyami Millarson 15:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Hi there.
    • To get a page deleted (if you have added it in error) use the template {{delete}} - a sysop will check it and delete it.
    • You can add inflection tables if you want - see Citro. A bot will eventually add the inflected forms (but it doesn't run very often). I don't know much about vowel lengths of Latin words - so add macrons where you think fit. SemperBlotto (talk) 16:33, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Latin genitive in zoological names

According to the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature (1999), species names ending with -i clearly indicate that the species has been named after a male (female would take -ae, plural either -orum or -arum). I think it is useful to mention this fact in relevant articles, since the majority of the world population have very vague idea about Latin at all and this may halp to trace a particular person who gave rise to the species name. 196.211.32.154

Many thanks! These words are not Latin, I absolutely agree. I should have said that even fewer people have an idea about rules of zoological nomenclature! :-) 196.211.32.154

Please note this change I made. --Cova (talk) 08:15, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Thanks. I keep forgetting about those. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:36, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
    • No worries. Someone will keep reminding you about them. --Cova (talk) 09:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] French

You're doing a bloody good job. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:37, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

  • You'll miss me when I'm gone. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
My father said that. So far, he is wrong. Equinox ◑ 23:22, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Tories Entry

Why do you keep insisting on reverting my perfectly acceptable changes? The original entry was completely inappropriate. This is supposed to be a dictionary not a left-wing magazine to have a dig at the Tories. My caption is perfectly appropriate and politically neutral and non-partisan. Please accept my version and stop reverting, thank you. Christian58 (talk) 23:08, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

  • Example sentences are meant to illustrate the use of the word in the real world. Your version was just a definition. I have replaced it by an actual citation from a book. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:52, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Entry - Radial glial cell

Hello - Please could you let me know what the errors were on my recent entry- I could correct them. Thanks . Scienceexplorer

  • I just thought that it was of a generally poor quality. We aim to do better. I have had a go myself. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:36, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your input, I see what you mean. I will strive to do better. Scienceexplorer (talk)

Discussion moved to Talk:青出于蓝.

Thank you, I'll study the page, before moving forward. Scienceexplorer (talk)

  • You are doing Japanese now?? SemperBlotto (talk) 11:09, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

No, why do you ask? Scienceexplorer (talk)

Wow..sorry about that...I had no idea - will stay out of it. Scienceexplorer (talk)

[edit] Definition not saved correctly

Hello, I just saved a definition,however, a portion of it is missing and a dotted line outlines what remains. I just realized I might have exceeded the word limit. I'd appreciate your help in this matter. Thank you! Scienceexplorer (talk)

  • You didn't start the definition line with a hash (#). The definition was pretty crap, but I see that somebody else has had a go at it. SemperBlotto (talk) 18:51, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. Scienceexplorer (talk)

[edit] Concordances

Semper, do you still have tools that will simply and quickly create a "Concordance" (linked word list) from a piece of text? If so, I'd like to have Concordance:Moby-Dick created from the Wikisource edition, which looks to have preserved the spellings from the 1851 original. I'm not particular about the format; but sorted alphabetically would be preferrable. If the chapter number(s) can be listed after each word (once per chapter), that would be a great bonus. If you do not have the tools to complete such a project, do you know who might? --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:38, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

  • I can produce something like the following. This is just from chapter 1. p.s. I only read it for the first time a couple of years ago. What a truly weird book! SemperBlotto (talk) 21:16, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

<text moved to concordance>

Yes, something like that would be usable. If you can paste each chapter's individual results into a correspondingly numbered section on the proposed Concordance page, that would work about as well. I am looking both to add missing entries as well as to add quotations to entries. The sectioning will thus help me identify quickly where to look for quotes. I'm attempting now (for the second time) to read the novel through. I made it only about halfway last time before life interfered and I lost my reading time. I have better prospects this time around. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:04, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

  • OK - I've made a start. If you would like to complete the construction of the basic concordance page (adding all the other chapters), I shall add the individual subpages a few at a time (so as not to get too bored). p.s. I have used subpages rather than sections so that the page does not get too big. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:26, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
    • p.p.s. Note: my software throws away special characters (converts them to spaces) - so chapter 2 does not contain "Carpet-Bag", only "Carpet" and "Bag". SemperBlotto (talk) 07:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
      • So you might want to manually convert "wouldn" and "t" to "wouldn't" etc. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:49, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I had expected that the software would butcher some words bearing internal punctuation, but that's probably unavoidable. Thanks for this. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:29, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
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