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Jul 31st 2011, 01:16

heptagram: Just barely caught myself in time: I almost referred to mathematicians as "normal people". Dodged a bullet there!

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Wiktionary and Wikipedia both have articles on this word. The OED does not. The word is not used by mathematicians (they would call it a star heptagon), though it is included in Mathworld. There is usage on the web in the context of New Age or occult symbols. The word is an obvious parallel construction similar to [[pentagram]], but what is the Wiktionary policy on a word like this, which certainly has some recent usage, but is not an established word in the sense of being in use in books or by scholars? Is this the correct forum to ask this question or should I have posted somewhere else? [[User:Dingo1729|Dingo1729]] 18:11, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Wiktionary and Wikipedia both have articles on this word. The OED does not. The word is not used by mathematicians (they would call it a star heptagon), though it is included in Mathworld. There is usage on the web in the context of New Age or occult symbols. The word is an obvious parallel construction similar to [[pentagram]], but what is the Wiktionary policy on a word like this, which certainly has some recent usage, but is not an established word in the sense of being in use in books or by scholars? Is this the correct forum to ask this question or should I have posted somewhere else? [[User:Dingo1729|Dingo1729]] 18:11, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
:This is absolutely the correct forum. See [[WT:CFI#Attestation]]. It could perhaps be glossed as {{temp|nonstandard}} or just indicated under usage notes that other names are more common. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 18:31, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
:This is absolutely the correct forum. See [[WT:CFI#Attestation]]. It could perhaps be glossed as {{temp|nonstandard}} or just indicated under usage notes that other names are more common. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 18:31, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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:Looking through [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22heptagram%7Cheptagrams%22&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:2001,cd_max:2011&tbm=bks the Google Books hits from 2001–2011], it's true that there are a lot of magicky/mystical/New-Agey hits, but there are also plenty of hits in pop-math books and even not-so-pop math books. And even among the mystical hits, a fair number are by people who don't actually seem to buy into the mysticism, but are just using it as a neutral term for the mystical symbol (just like how you don't have to be a Taoist to use the term "yin-yang"). —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 01:15, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
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