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User talk:Pilcrow
28 May 2011, 4:51 am

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← Older revision Revision as of 03:51, 28 May 2011
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::::::The point is that I can not be entitled to a specific explanation about how my entires are "gibberish" or "nonsense", which (I assume) is all because of the way I was acting towards Martin's "advice".
::::::The point is that I can not be entitled to a specific explanation about how my entires are "gibberish" or "nonsense", which (I assume) is all because of the way I was acting towards Martin's "advice".
:::::::I enjoy writing in my own way, and I think Martin likes his own method too, but apparently, my way is "gibberish" compared to his. Well, what am I supposed to think of that? Is my style just too unpopular? Is he incapable of taking me seriously? Does it ruin the valuable congruency by letting somebody else use slightly different templates? If not, then could I please know what kind are allowed? How am I supposed to ensure myself that I will not irritate him (and get blocked) again? At this point, I do not want to mess with my deleted entries anymore, it just causes too much trouble over something minor, but I still have not received a satisfactory explanation and I am stuck without one. --[[User:Pilcrow|Pilcrow]] 02:23, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::::I enjoy writing in my own way, and I think Martin likes his own method too, but apparently, my way is "gibberish" compared to his. Well, what am I supposed to think of that? Is my style just too unpopular? Is he incapable of taking me seriously? Does it ruin the valuable congruency by letting somebody else use slightly different templates? If not, then could I please know what kind are allowed? How am I supposed to ensure myself that I will not irritate him (and get blocked) again? At this point, I do not want to mess with my deleted entries anymore, it just causes too much trouble over something minor, but I still have not received a satisfactory explanation and I am stuck without one. --[[User:Pilcrow|Pilcrow]] 02:23, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
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:(unindenting) Yes, Wiktionary oftentimes seems to follow a specific type of democracy in which unpopular ideas get deleted and popular ideas are kept. Since {{temp|internet slang}} and {{temp|accent:Spain}} are widely used by many people, they are popular by default. Since you are reasonably the only editor expected to use "Template:suffix" and certain other template names, your style is unpopular by default.
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:In spite of anything you may have learned from Mglovesfun, there is nothing inherently wrong with using one's own style. However, the concept of "style" encompasses a huge number of things, so it's not possible to simply say something like "Yes! Please always use your own style! Always!" or "No! Don't you dare ever using your own only style! Never!". There are situations where you can use your style and other situations where you can't use your style.
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:I advise, as a rule of thumb, always taking your time to post new and unpopular ideas at [[WT:BP]] to give the chance for other people to comment about them. Not because they are "your style", just because they are "new" and "unpopular"! By proposing the implementation of new ideas before implementing them, you more clearly display good faith and willingness to work in group. As you certainly know, there is even the possibility of other people supporting (or just don't opposing) what you have to say.
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:In particular, I don't think that a redirect from "Template:suffix" to "Template:suffix" is a good idea, for the reasons I already gave. In addition, the redirect is obscure, and (AFAIK) often not typeable from average QWERTY keyboards. This redirect might confuse new readers. The current name is much more [[user-friendly]]. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel]] 03:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

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