| Wiktionary:Requests for deletion Mar 26th 2012, 18:37 cast a shadow: | ← Older revision | Revision as of 18:37, 26 March 2012 | | Line 2,897: | Line 2,897: | | | :::Please add all the appropriate senses. Do you think we are missing figurative senses of {{term|cast}}? [[User: DCDuring |DCDuring]] <small >[[User talk: DCDuring|TALK]]</small > 01:51, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | | :::Please add all the appropriate senses. Do you think we are missing figurative senses of {{term|cast}}? [[User: DCDuring |DCDuring]] <small >[[User talk: DCDuring|TALK]]</small > 01:51, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | | | I think we shall not have an entry for every metaphor. The meaning of this phrase is easily deductible from the senses of "cast" and "shadow". It would be more important to have every sense of every word defined than to have a more or less random collection of their combinations. As an example let's take a look on what we have on "give a ...". We have [[give a ring]] but don't have [[give a ride]], we have [[gimme a five]] but not the appropriate sense of [[five]] etc. Not that keeping this would cause much harm, it's just useless and running this kind of entries misdirects the attention of editors to entries of secondary importance. '''Delete''', if I'm asked. --[[User:Hekaheka|Hekaheka]] ([[User talk:Hekaheka|talk]]) 10:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | | I think we shall not have an entry for every metaphor. The meaning of this phrase is easily deductible from the senses of "cast" and "shadow". It would be more important to have every sense of every word defined than to have a more or less random collection of their combinations. As an example let's take a look on what we have on "give a ...". We have [[give a ring]] but don't have [[give a ride]], we have [[gimme a five]] but not the appropriate sense of [[five]] etc. Not that keeping this would cause much harm, it's just useless and running this kind of entries misdirects the attention of editors to entries of secondary importance. '''Delete''', if I'm asked. --[[User:Hekaheka|Hekaheka]] ([[User talk:Hekaheka|talk]]) 10:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | | | + | * '''Keep''' until someone comes up with a valid argument for deletion. The term could be sum of parts with respect to a figurative sense of "shadow". The argument that Wiktionary excludes live metaphors (nothing of the sort is in CFI) would, if accepted, equally well exclude the corresponding figurative sense of "shadow", on whose inclusion the sum-of-parts argument depends. Furthermore, whether this is a ''live'' metaphor is doubtful, due to the commonness of the metaphor: skimming the first few pages of {{google|"casts a shadow"}} suggests this phrase is very often used figuratively in English. Put differently, if a metaphor is ''trite'', it is doubtful that it can be ''live'' at the same time.<p>The argument along the line that we need to delete this so that editors can focus on other things is an attempt to regulate and channel other editors' resources, which really has not place in RFD, IMHO, and, clearly enough, is not supported by CFI. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] ([[User talk:Dan Polansky|talk]]) 18:37, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | | | | | | | | == [[closing stages]] == | | == [[closing stages]] == | | |
